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Real Estate Timing Targets
Posted in Home Prices, Housing, real estate, Real Estate Analyst, Roy Wenzlick, Wenzlick
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National Home Price Targets
Our first housing target from January 22, 2023 have been achieved.
Real Estate Cycle
Below is our estimate of where we are in the Real Estate Cycle based on the work of Roy Wenzlick.
Real Estate Cycle
The following is our general overview of where we are in the real estate cycle.
Posted in cycle analysis, Market cycles, Real Estate Analyst, Wenzlick
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1870-2033: Real Estate Cycles
The history of real estate cycles should inform how to analyze the market. However, there is an abundance of analysis without a review of the history, which generates conclusions that are unrelated to how the real estate market works. Additionally, symptoms are given more prominence than the causes leading investors, speculators, buyers, and sellers down a path of misunderstanding.
Below is a chart of the real estate cycle from 1870 to 2033. Continue reading
Posted in cycle analysis, Cyclical Trends, Market cycles, real estate, Wenzlick
Real Estate: Has the Low Been Seen?
New one family homes sold for the month of May 2020 was reported today and it looks like the low has been reached. The year-over-year perspective belies the image conveyed in the absolute change which is far from the 2005 peak.
Absolute Change
There is little need to expect that the prior absolute increase needs to be achieved (1,389 on July 2005). However, it is no coincidence that we see some kind of reaction within a long-term rising trend at a similar level during the 1990 to 2005 increase. The two prior reactions broke the rising trend into three separate periods as noted by Edson Gould’s Three Steps Rule:
Three steps up in an advancing market and three steps down in a declining market usually exhaust the bullish potential accumulated at the bottoms and the bearish potential accumulated at tops- but sometimes there is a fourth step (Edson Gould Reports. Edson Gould’s 1975 Forecast. November, 1974. page 8. ).
When we speak of the “long-term” rising trend, we’re referencing our December 9, 2010 article titled “Real Estate: The Verdict Is In” and the subsequent updates since 2010 which is primarily based on the work of Roy Wenzlick.
Year over Year Change
The year-over-year (YoY) change shows that a reversal of the trend within a NBER recession has typically meant a reaction to a 27%-30% change at some point down the road. We’re currently at 12.66% in the YoY change in New One Family Homes Sold so there should be some room to the upside before the current recession ends and the next recession begins.
As always, prepare for the worst as the current pandemic will not start the second wave until after the one year anniversary of the first wave.
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Posted in Edson Gould, real estate, three step rule, Wenzlick
On This Date: Roy Wenzlick
On this date in 1942, Roy Wenzlick, in his publication titled Real Estate Analyst, said the following:
"Leaving aside the equitable or inequitable nature of the freezing data in the various cities, what will be the over-all effect of rent control on values and on sales during the period of the emergency and the period that follows?
"According to Cyril De Mara, Rentals Administrator in Canada, rent control in Canada has brought about an increase in sales with increasing prices of single-family residences with increasing prices. Many persons not being able to rent the type of units they desired have purchased instead - giving the former tenants notice to vacate. In fact, this has continued to the-point that labor circles have complained that tenants are being forced out to make room for buyers. According to Mr. De Mara apartment sales have remained on the game level as a year ago, although sales prices of apartments have not increased. Speculative buyers have been replaced by persons desiring to have a fixed income."
Roy Wenzlick. Real Estate Analyst. "The Effects of Rent Control". May 27, 1942. page 137.
Posted in 1942, On This Day, Real Estate Analyst, Wenzlick
Real Estate: October 2019
On December 9, 2010, in an article titled “Real Estate: The Verdict Is In”, we said the following:
“Based on the indicated sources above, we feel that real estate has a six to nine year stretch of rising prices or ‘trading’ in a range and decreased foreclosures.”
Real Estate Prices since December 2010:
Foreclosures since December 2010:
As part of the commentary in 2010, the expectation of the 6-9 years of increasing prices is currently showing signs of fatigue as indicated in the year-over-year change of the S&P/Schiller National Home Price Index:
Nine years in and there is the increasing chance that the declining year-over-year rate of change since 2013 may be coming to an end. Although we’d like to see the rate of increase get closer to zero we think that, more or less, the trend could moderate before exceeding the previous year-over-year highs of 2018.
Going back to that December 2010 article, we presented a chart of the Real Estate Loans, All Commercial Banks (REALLN) on a year-over-year basis. Although December 2010 wasn’t the absolute low in the indicator, it wasn’t long before that level became a distant memory.
The points in the chart above, circled in red, are levels showing moderation in the rising trend. Our belief is that these provide the respite that is needed and expected in a well functioning housing market. The current moderation after the decline from the 2013 peak suggests that we’re at or near the end of the 9 year half cycle in the 18-year rising trend of real estate.
What did we just say?
We think another round of rising real estate prices is near. While the indicator can fall further, we think that the current level has been consistent with the 18-year cycle as pointed out by Roy Wenzlick. For this reason, we think that the next trend in real estate price will eclipse what has already been seen with year-over-year increases reaching double digit levels. Ideally, this level of increase in real estate will occur after a 1991-like recession.
Posted in cycle analysis, real estate, Wenzlick
Real Estate: Nationwide Declines from 1910 to 1936
In a CNBC interview that took place on July 1, 2005, Ben Bernanke said:
“We’ve never had a decline in house prices on a nationwide basis.”
This claim is coming from a scholar who specialized in the Great Depression. The Great Depression was an era of nationwide house price declines as represented in the red box below.
Reviewing the work of Roy Wenzlick, we can see that house price declines were not the only measurable metric that real estate suffered on a nationwide basis. Throughout the U.S., in more than 70 large cities we see that rents decreased, number of new dwellings decreased, office vacancies increased, farm land values decreased and real estate transfers decreased. Below data and charts based on the work of Roy Wenzlick demonstrating nationwide trends in real estate. Continue reading
Ease of Credit from 1876-1934
Below is a chart from Roy Wenzlick’s Real Estate Analyst dated June 1934 showing the different levels of the ease in real estate credit as the reciprocal of the foreclosure rate.
Posted in real estate, Wenzlick
Housing Prices About to Explode Higher?
This was the headline found on ValueWalk.com.
If you like a rationale for what might happen in housing then this is a pretty good explanation. However, we’ve long stated this fact. Based on the data that we track, all indications pointed to the coming boom in housing and real estate prices since our December 9, 2010 article titled “Real Estate: The Verdict is In.”
The above chart is from our October 2017 Real Estate Review, in which we said the following:
“Although we show the cycle at or near a ‘peak,’ the current stage is a phase of accelerated increases on the way to a top in the real estate market at or near the 2024 date.”
This mirrors the ValueWalk article which states, “The valuable part of this chart is the right side which shows that millennials are starting to buy homes now and should boost the housing market until 2026.” However, our estimate for the peak near 2024 was first issued on October 5, 2012 based on the work of Roy Wenzlick and was a revision to our initial 2028 estimate.
There are some factors that go unaddressed in the ValueWalk article however, we believe, as we’ve stated since December 2010, that the trend is your friend.
Posted in real estate, Wenzlick
Homebuilder Confidence at 18 Year High
In an articled titled “America's homebuilders haven't felt this good since 1999” found on Yahoo!Finance dated December 18, 2017, it is noted that homebuilders confidence is “…now at a higher level than it was at any point during the housing bubble.” Does this mean that a crash in the housing market is coming?
To clarify whether a crash is coming, we’ve taken the data that is referenced in the article and laid bare the elements of a real estate market cycle. In the article it is said that the National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo Housing Market Index (HMI) “…hit an 18-year high of 74, topping expectations for a reading of 70 and well above last month’s reading of 69.”
As we’ve pointed out, based on the work of Roy Wenzlick, there is an approximate 18-year real estate cycle for peaks and troughs. When we look at the HMI chart (full cycle in red), we can clearly see that major cycle lows have an 18 year period of separation. While this is only a coincidence, it fits well with the work of Wenzlick who confidently shows this cycle (1795-1974) in his writings from 1930-1974.
Posted in cycle analysis, real estate, Wenzlick
Real Estate Review
On September 12, 2016, we assess the real estate market. In this update, we’ll reconsider the points that we made to determine the progress that has been made with our analysis. There are some surprises as we go through the limit info that is tracked.
In this assessment, we track the Housing Starts of New Privately Owned Housing Units. At the time of the September 2016 review, we said the following:
“The latest trend from September 2015 to the present appears to show topping out action as the Housing Starts data seems to be running out of steam. Additionally, the dotted red line in the chart shows the Dow Theory halfway point at which either the market booms higher or stalls & stutters before declining substantially, relative to the most recent rise.”
So far, the data has fallen in alignment with our claim of topping out action, as seen in the chart below.
Posted in cycle analysis, real estate, Wenzlick
Musings on Real Estate
As investors, we’re firm believers in preparing for the worst case scenario. For us, the definitive worst case scenario is found in the markets from 1921 to 1932, covering the early stages of the “Great” Depression. We believe 1921 to 1932 should be examined and re-examined to understand possible risks and remedies for our current perspective on markets.
In our recent musings, we found that the rent data from 1914 to the present at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis had a minor quirk, some information was missing in the sweet spot that we’re most interested. Below is our take on the data and some minor insights.
Again, looking at the data related to the CPI for All Urban Consumers: Rent of Primary Residence (CUUR0000SEHA) on the St. Louis Federal Reserve website, we can see monthly data ranging from 1914 to the present. However, the data in the period from 1915 to 1940 has many gaps that obscure what happened to rental prices (when attempting to chart).
The chart below is the maximum view of the data from 1914 to 2017. The black boxes show, or rather don’t show, the data that is missing from the period in concern (also from 1944-1947).
Although there is some data interspersed from 1915 to 1940, there isn’t enough to generate a complete graphical representation of the period. Below is the charting of the data for Residential Rents in St. Louis covering the period from 1875 to 1944 in work from Roy Wenzlick’s Real Estate Analyst. We’ve highlighted the period of concern in red.
We wanted to know how accurate Wenzlick’s St. Louis residential rents compared to the national data provided by the Federal Reserve. To do this, we took the 1914 data set and peg the percentage change in Wenzlick’s work to the missing data at the Fed through to 1940. The result of this is displayed below:
In the red are the data points based on what would have happened if the starting point of December 2014 Fed data had the same rate of percentage change as Wenzlick’s graphical representation from 1914 to 1940. In the blue, we have the original data set from the Federal Reserve. We’ve extended the available Fed data from the prior period to fill the gaps.
Interestingly, the percentage change from peak to trough in both data sets are fairly close with Wenzlick’s data declining –34.21% and the Fed data falling –38.43%. The January 1923 and September 1924 peaks are consistent with our previous examination of other commodities. For example, in our “1925 to 1932: A Question for Precious Metal Investors” article, we see a 1925 peak in precious metal stocks with the decline ending in 1932.
As best we can tell, the gaps presented in the Federal Reserve data generally coincides with the data offered by Roy Wenzlick. In addition, the data from both sources on the general direction of rents coincides with other commodity related declines from the period of 1923 to 1932.
Posted in 1929, 1932, real estate, Rent, Wenzlick
Real Estate Review
On December 9, 2010, we wrote an article titled “Real Estate: The Verdict Is In”. At the time, we said the following:
“As we come to the close of 2010, it appears that based on the narrow scope of sources that we’ve selected, the bottom in real estate has come and gone.”
Since that time, the real estate market has experienced what we’d consider to be a recovery. This is a follow-up on the indicators from that 2010 article to see how far along we have come in the current recovery and where we might expect the market to go from here.
Posted in cycle analysis, real estate, Wenzlick